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Counterfeit catalog

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Counterfeit vintage Coach falls into identifiable “families” — Korean repros from the 1990s, Turkish repros, modern Chinese fakes, and Frankenbags assembled from real parts plus replacement creeds. Each family carries signature tells. This page is the framework index; individual family pages live under /authentication/counterfeits/<family-slug>.md.

Counterfeit families

Each family below is a stub. Diagnostic detail, photo references, and year-first-observed will land on the dedicated family pages. Every specific-tell claim here echoes a documented signal from research/E-authentication.md or the cross-reference pages (creed-formats.md, serial-numbers.md, country-of-origin.md); no new tells are introduced on this index.

Korean repros (1990s)

A 1990s reproduction wave commonly cited in Tier 3 community-authentication guidance. Typical tells echo the construction-anchor list in research/E-authentication.md §7 and the creed-wording anchors in creed-formats.md: painted glossy edges on a bag claiming pre-1995 manufacture, magnetic hardware (real Coach turnlocks of the era are solid brass and non-magnetic), and wrong creed kerning or stroke weight on the “COACH LEATHERWARE” wordmark. Dedicated korean-repros.md page forthcoming.

Turkish repros

Turkey was a legitimate Coach manufacturing country from the mid-1990s — confirmed in the fiscal-2003 sourcing list [coach-10k-fiscal-2003] and cited from approximately 1996 onward in Tier 3 sources [coachbagrehab-dating]. A separate Turkish reproduction stream circulates in community-authentication discussion, complicating the read on any “Made in Turkey” creed: a legitimate Turkish-made Coach and a Turkish counterfeit can both surface at resale. Dedicated turkish-repros.md page forthcoming with the diagnostic boundary between the two.

Modern Chinese fakes (2000s+)

The most common counterfeit family today, with multiple sub-types. The recurring signal across sub-types is era-impossible country-of-origin combinations — most diagnostically, “Made in China” on a bag whose creed still carries the small-caps “LEATHERWARE” wordmark. China-made Coach is post-vintage and post-LEATHERWARE per country-of-origin.md; the combination is era-impossible. Dedicated modern-chinese-fakes.md page forthcoming with the sub-type breakdown.

Frankenbags

Bags assembled from a mixture of authentic Coach components and replacement parts — most often a replacement creed, sometimes a swapped turnlock, dogleash clip, or hangtag. Particularly hard to detect because some components really are authentic; the bag’s leather, hardware, and stitching may pass every individual check while the creed carries era-impossible wording or a serial format that contradicts the rest of the bag. Dedicated frankenbags.md page forthcoming.

Era-inconsistency tells

These cross-family signals come from country-of-origin.md and research/E-authentication.md. Any one of them flags a bag as a counterfeit, a Frankenbag, or a misrepresented item — pending the replacement-component caveat below.

• “Made in China” with LEATHERWARE creed. China production postdates the LEATHERWARE wordmark window. Strong fake tell [coach-10k-fiscal-2003, coachbagrehab-dating].
• Offshore origin (Costa Rica / Hungary / Turkey / Dominican Republic / Mexico) on a creed that reads “Made in New York City, U.S.A.” NYC-only wording cannot coexist with offshore origin [coachbagrehab-dating, vintagecoachie].
• “Handcrafted in China” with the small-caps LEATHERWARE wordmark present. Era-impossible [coach-10k-fiscal-2003, coachbagrehab-dating].
• Offshore origin marking on a bag with a stamped-leather-only interior and no creed at all (the late-1960s–early-1970s E2b–E2c style). Almost certainly a replacement creed or a fake [coachbagrehab-dating].
• Letter-number serial (e.g., B6D-9927) paired with “Made in New York City, U.S.A.” creed wording. The letter-number format begins in 1994; NYC wording ends approximately 1980. The combination is impossible [coachbagrehab-dating, vintagecoachie].
• Painted glossy edges on a bag with a pre-1995 creed. Authentic vintage edges are raw or burnished, not painted [valentinasvault-creed, bagforum-creed-history].
• Magnetic turnlock on a bag with a LEATHERWARE creed. Authentic brass turnlocks of the LEATHERWARE era are non-magnetic [vintagecoachbags-authenticity, purseforum-authenticate-coach].
• Zipper maker postdating the creed era — see research/E-authentication.md §5 for the maker-by-era timeline.

Replacement-component caveat

A bag with a “wrong era” component is not automatically a fake. Coach Repair (consolidated to Jacksonville, Florida in July 1999 per the fiscal-2003 10-K, [coach-10k-fiscal-2003]) sometimes replaced creeds, turnlocks, and dogleash clips during legitimate restoration. A genuinely authentic bag can carry a Coach-Repair-installed replacement that reads as era-inconsistent.

This is one reason Frankenbag detection is hard: the line between “authentic bag with Coach-installed replacement” and “Frankenbag assembled at resale from real parts” is not always visible from the bag alone. Provenance, restoration paperwork, and the consistency of the non-replaced components carry the weight in close calls. The high-folklore-zone rule from STYLE.md §4.5 — “original” hardware vs replacement — applies here: a single era-mismatched component is a question, not a verdict.

Authenticator’s quick triage

In order, on a candidate bag:

1. Magnet to the turnlock. Brass is non-magnetic; a stick is a strong fake or post-2000 plated-steel signal.
2. Read the creed wording. Small-caps “LEATHERWARE” beneath “COACH” → pre-1994. Just “COACH” → 1994+. Country-of-origin line must be consistent with the wording era (see creed-formats.md).
3. Check serial format against creed era. Digit-only xxxx-xxx or xxx-xxxx → pre-1994. Letter-digit-letter-dash-digits (B6D-9927) → 1994+. A mismatch between serial format and creed wording is a Frankenbag or fake signal (see serial-numbers.md).
4. Inspect edge treatment. Raw or burnished edges on pre-1995 bags; glossy painted edges are a red flag.
5. Check zipper maker against era. Talon dominant pre-mid-1970s, YKK dominant late 1970s onward (per research/E-authentication.md §5). A zipper maker postdating the creed era is suspect.

No single check is sufficient. The decision tree in creed-formats.md is the long-form companion to this triage list.

Submission workflow

Readers submitting suspected fakes should provide the canonical photo set: full bag (front, back, both sides); creed close-up with a ruler in frame for scale; turnlock front and back; zipper pull and zipper-tape stamp; lining (full and any pocket details); country-of-origin tag (whether stamped into the creed or sewn into a seam); hangtag (both sides); base and feet. Submissions land in /authentication/submissions/ as drafts. Once verified or classified, notable examples are promoted to reference status on the relevant family page.

Sources

• coachbagrehab-dating — Tier 3; most specific Tier 3 source on the 1994 creed and serial transition; baseline for era-impossible combinations.
• vintagecoachie — Tier 3; creed-wording chronology including the LEATHERWARE wordmark anchor.
• vintagecoachbags-authenticity — Tier 3 dealer authentication guide; hardware and construction tells.
• valentinasvault-creed — Tier 3; creed-patch construction and edge treatment.
• bagforum-creed-history — Tier 3; creed and serial progression with explicit fake-vs-authentic framing.
• purseforum-authenticate-coach — Tier 3; community authentication thread; hardware and serial-format signals.
• purseforum-costa-rica — Tier 3; factory-letter “P” reference, used here for the offshore-era origin context.
• coach-10k-fiscal-2003 — Tier 1; primary source for the 2003 manufacturing-country list (China, Costa Rica, Mexico, India, Italy, Spain, Hungary, Turkey) and the July 1999 Jacksonville consolidation of Coach Repair.

Individual family pages will carry their own per-claim sources and confidence tags. This index page intentionally does not promote any counterfeit-family claim above framework — promotion happens on the dedicated family pages once diagnostic photos and dated examples are attached.